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Friday, 3 September 2010
Indonesia: American pulls plug on mosque loudspeaker; arrested for 'blasphemy'

 If he did do what he is said to have done, he was brave, but foolish.

As reported by the Australian ABC, relying on a report from AFP:

www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/30/2997783.htm

'Man charged after pulling plug on mosque loudspeaker'.

'Indonesia authorities have arrested an American man for blasphemy after he pulled the plug on a loudspeaker at a mosque because it woke him  up, police said.

'Luke Gregory Lloyd, 64, was taken into custody after he disrupted a nightly Koran reading session near his home on Lombok Island which was being broadcast over the mosque's loudspeaker during the Muslim  holy month of Ramadan.

'The incident happened on August 22 and Lloyd has been under police guard at a hotel ever since, pending further investigations.

"He got angry as the Koranic reading woke him up.  He scolded people in the mosque before pulling out the loudspeaker's cable", police officer Lalu Mahsun told reporters.

'He could face five years in jail under the mainly Muslim country's blasphemy laws'.

- Hmm. So if you get angry about having your sleep disturbed by broadcasts from a mosque, and publicly express that anger, you are committing 'blasphemy'??  In modern, moderate, democratic Indonesia.  

- If Mr Lloyd did in fact do what he is said to have done, his approach - angrily telling off the offenders, and pulling the plug - is rather reminiscent of the usual *Muslim* method of expressing disapproval of something. Spot it and stop it.  Command right and forbid wrong.  Muslims do it all the time in non-Muslim lands - every time a Muslim male on Cronulla beach or a Gold Coast beach threatens and harasses a non-Muslim woman whom he deems insufficiently covered; and I seem to recall at least one case of a Muslim in Britain marching into a church during the service to demand that the volume of the singing be reduced because it was annoying him (and that in broad daylight; not in the small hours, as when this Indonesian incident is supposed to have happened).  Muslims feel entitled to lay down the - Muslim - law to non-Muslims on non-Muslim turf, but woe to the unwary infidel who forgets himself and rebukes Muslims on Muslim turf!  One wonders how long Mr Lloyd has lived in Indonesia, and whether he was brave, or foolish, or simply driven beyond reasonable endurance.  There is no mention of how close he lived to the mosque, nor what decibel level was issuing from the loudspeakers. - C. M.

'Police also said Lloyd's visa had expired in 2006.'

- There may be more to this story than meets the eye.  It is, indeed, possible that the whole dramatic tale of the angry, blasphemous American Infidel storming into the mosque and pulling the plug on the loudspeakers in the middle of a Koran reading, may be a fabrication, perhaps intended to test whether the USA is willing to let Muslims do as they will to an American citizen.  We have seen, in many reports from Pakistan, accusations of 'blasphemy', whether made against Muslims or non-Muslims, that were completely false.  And, for that matter, the statement about the visa should not necessarily be believed, either.  I would like to hear Mr Lloyd's version of events, before drawing any final conclusions. 

I have not heard any more about this case as yet; will keep an eye open. - C. M.

Posted on 09/03/2010 10:55 PM by Christina McIntosh
Comments
4 Sep 2010
Hugh Fitzgerald

Anyone who has had to endure, day after day,  the racket of the electronically-amplified azan would sympathize. The in-and-out visitor may find it merely a bit of lovely local color; the non-Muslim who has to endure it, or even the intelligent Muslim who knows that in a world of watches and timekeepers it is entirely unnecessary, and yet has to endure it, do not agree.

The only good thing about it is that it Muslim lands, everyone is so goddamn tired from hearing the blasts from the past (that's Islam -- an incessant blast from the past, the seventh or possibly eighth or possibly ninth-century gift that keeps on giving), that they are even less productive and thus less dangerous than they would be if they were not so tired.



7 Sep 2010
Christina McIntosh

 I have just come across an update on this story.  It appears in the final sentence of a report from the 'Jakarta Globe', most of which describes the arrest for 'blasphemy' of a *different* foreign resident of Lombok, a German expat named Stephen Alexander, who allegedly said something Muslims perceived as insulting and was punished for it by having his house and motorbike destroyed by a rioting mob.  (In that report, we do not hear Mr Alexander's side of the story, as opposed to the version given by the Muslim villagers as justification for their riot against him, so we do not know whether Mr  Alexander confirms or denies it).

The end of that article devotes three sentences to the story of Mr Lloyd.  Second sentence is this lurid account: "Police allege the American expatriate barged into the prayer session *with his shoes on* (horrors!), unplugged a microphone, and may even have assaulted one of the worshippers".  But then, finally, we hear Mr Lloyd's response: "Lloyd, whose home was also trashed (i.e. by a rioting Muslim mob, just like Mr Alexander's - CM) denies the charges".

The Muslims say non-Muslim X committed 'blasphemy' (and this, of course, justifies the riotous destruction of X's home by a Muslim mob).  Non-Muslim X says he didn't do what the Muslims say he did.  Whom do we believe?  Remember - War is deceit. Remember - Muslims lie.  Remember - in Islamised societies the word of a Muslim always trumps that of a non-Muslim; so Muslims can make false accusations against non-Muslims with utter impunity.

This looks  more and more like the kind of story that regularly comes out of Pakistan.



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