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Saturday, 4 July 2009
7th July - conspiracy theory. No, not the Jooz this time - HM Govt.

From The Daily Mail
As rumours swell that the government staged 7/7, victims' relatives call for a proper inquiry.
The country's worst-ever terrorist atrocity during London's morning rush hour on July 7, 2005, shattered for ever the heady euphoria in which the capital was basking the morning after winning the bid for the 2012 Olympics.
That afternoon, Tony Blair - who was hosting the G8 summit on global poverty in Gleneagles, Scotland - returned to Downing Street to pronounce that the attack was an act in the 'name of Islam'.
Later, at a meeting of the Government's national emergency committee COBRA, London's anti-terror police chief Andy Hayman told senior ministers that he suspected suicide bombers.
And so the story of 7/7 that we have come to accept was pieced together: four British Muslims - Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, Shehzad Tanweer, 22, Jermaine Lindsay, 19, and Hasib Hussain, 18 - blew themselves up using home-made explosives, killing 56 and injuring 700 on three Tube trains and a double-decker bus.
They had travelled on a mainline train from Luton into King's Cross Thameslink Station in London, each carrying a heavy rucksack of explosives.
It is a version of events that has been endorsed by a high-level Parliamentary inquiry and a government report, both published in May 2006 ten months after the event, based on 12,500 statements, a police examination of 142 computers and 6,000 hours of CCTV footage.
The report insisted that the bombers acted on their own, constructing explosives from chapatti flour and hair bleach mixed in the bath at a flat in Leeds, Yorkshire, where all four had family and friends.
It concluded that the Muslim bombers were not controlled by a terrorist mastermind, but inspired by Al Qaeda ideology picked up on extremist websites.
But families of the dead victims and an increasing number of 7/7 survivors claim there are inconsistencies and basic mistakes in the official accounts that need explanation.
And they are demanding a full public inquiry to answer key questions about what the Intelligence Services and the police did and did not know before the bombings.
Meanwhile, the Government's determined refusal to meet their demands is having a very dangerous side-effect - fuelling myriad conspiracy theories about 7/7. Books, blogs and several video documentaries point to oddities in the official accounts.
Alarmingly, some of the conspiracy videos are being hawked around mosques throughout the country to whip up anti-British sentiment.
For the most outlandish and offensive of them suggest that the attacks were not the work of Muslim terrorists at all, but were carried out by the Government to boost support for the Iraq war.
The survivors are so intent on an independent inquiry that they are now taking legal action in the High Court to try to force the Home Secretary Alan Johnson to authorise it.
Rachel North, (a courageous and formidable young woman who has faced death threats since for her refusal to lie down and be quiet) a 39-year-old strategy director who survived the King's Cross Tube bombing, adds: 'We need a public inquiry. It was the public, after all, not the politicians, who were attacked. Let the public know what risks they run and tell them why there are those living among them who seek to kill for an ideal.'
And it is such inconsistencies (in the times of the trains, CCTV footage etc) that are fuelling the deepening concerns. This week, a television documentary on BBC2 called Conspiracy Files 7/7 revealed the existence of a conspiracy theorist's 56-minute video called Ripple Effect.
It accuses Tony Blair, the Government, the police, and the British and Israeli Secret Services of murdering the innocent people who died that day to stir up anti-Islamic fervour and create public support for the 'war on terror'.
It alleges that the four British Muslims were tricked by the authorities into taking part in what they were told would be a mock anti-terror training exercise. What they weren't told, the video alleges, was that the Government was going to blow them up, along with other passengers, then pretend the four were suicide bombers.
Without any evidence, the Ripple Effect video accuses government agents of setting off pre-planted explosives under the three Tube trains and on the bus.
It suggests that the four Muslims were not, in fact, on any of the Tube trains, claiming that they missed them altogether because of the train delays on the Luton to London line.
It adds, astonishingly, that because the four did not get onto the Tube on time, three of them were murdered by police at Canary Wharf later that morning and the fourth - the bus bomber - ran off.
Outrageous though these claims are, the video has become an internet hit. More worryingly, it is playing on the fears of Britain's Muslim community.
Even some senior Islamists believe the events of 7/7 were fabricated. As Dr Mohammad Naseem, the chairman of Birmingham's Central Mosque, says in the BBC2 documentary: 'We do not accept the government version of July 7, 2005. The Ripple Effect video is more convincing than the official statements.'
Mr Naseem, a well-educated man, had made 2,000 copies of Ripple Effect for members of his mosque. Research has revealed that even before the contentious video came out, one in four British Muslims thought the Government or the Secret Services were responsible for the 7/7 atrocities. Now the number of doubters is growing.
At Friday prayers recently, Dr Naseem asked the congregation to raise their hands if they did not accept the government version of events. Nearly the entire gathering of 150 men and boys did so. He then urged his audience to collect free copies of Ripple Effect at the back of the mosque. If they truely believe this why do they celebrate the 4 murderers as heros, and where do the second 4 in the abortive attempts of 21st July come into it?
The respected chairman has since said that the identities of the bombers were discovered by the police suspiciously quickly. 'When a body is blown up, it is destroyed. How is it that the identification papers found at the bomb scenes of these men were still intact? Were they planted?'
That is another suggestion in Ripple Effect. So who is behind this dangerous video?
He is 60-year-old Yorkshireman Anthony John Hill who lives in Kells, County Meath, Ireland. He is currently under arrest there and fighting extradition to Britain. Police here want to interview him on a charge of perverting the course of justice after he sent a copy of his video to a jury member in a terrorist case.
Mr Hill made Ripple Effect at his own home and is the narrator. He sometimes uses the name Muad Dib who was a character in the Frank Herbert 'science' fiction Dune novels. In my teens I used to be very close to an afficionado of that series of bonkers books - alarm bells should now be ringing instantly. And before anybody wonders, no, I am not a Mother Superior of the Bene Gesserint.
Fact or fiction, it does not matter. The impact of the video is swaying Muslim feeling. The BBC2 documentary shows worshippers in the Birmingham mosque commenting on 7/7 after seeing Ripple Effect. One elderly man states: 'There can be little doubt that the Government did this themselves to these four young men.'
Another adds: 'We have been deceived by the British authorities, and Muslims have been framed for these attacks. They are lying from A to Z.'
Few are more concerned than Rachel North, the King's Cross Tube bomb survivor, about Ripple Effect and the discontent it is stirring up: 'If people in mosques think the Government is so antagonistic towards them, that they're actually willing to frame them for a monstrous crime they didn't commit, what does that do to levels of trust? That is a problem for everybody in this country.'
She says the video's central tenet - that 7/7 was faked to demonise Muslims and sway public opinion in favour of the 'war on terror' - is like throwing petrol on a fire.
Like her, many responsible people - and they include former Scotland Yard deputy assistant commissioner Brian Paddick, former anti-terror chief of London police Andy Hayman (who oversaw the police response to 7/7) and David Davis, until recently Tory Shadow Home Secretary - now support the call for an independent investigation into the bombings.
My personal opinion is that the government felt itself very dependent on the Muslim vote. Therefore they wanted to play down the threat that Islam, not radical Islam, not religion of peace hijacked by extremist Islam, not Wahabi islam, but plain bare naked Islam poses to everywhere that is not yet in thrall to Islam.
They didn't want reprisals. They didn't want criticism. They didn't want anything to upset the brave new multi-culti world they were trying to impose on us. And because they are not exactly the finest brains this nation has ever produced (as demonstrated by their thinking no-one would notice their expense claims) they thought they could get away with it.
Of course they didn't bargain with several factors.
First that the Muslim vote is not a given. Give Islam an inch and it will demand a mile and threaten worse until it gets it.
Second that they would lose their traditional voters, the white working class, in the numbers that are now voting for BNP, UKIP and other alternatives.
Third that the public can think for themselves and read sites like this, and books by writers like Bat Ye'or, Ibn Warraq, Patrick Sookhedeo.
The genie is out of the bottle and cannot be put back.
We have come a long way in 4 years.
And we do need to know the extend of these plots against us. I could certainly bear to know the connection between the incidents of the two Thursdays a fortnight apart.
Paddick himself said this week, the torrent of rumours about 7/7 was harming relations between Muslims and the rest of Britain: 'Hopefully there will be people in the police service, the security service and Whitehall who will realise how important it is that every attempt is made to counteract these conspiracy theories.'
But to do that will mean explaining the concept of Global Jihad. And they won't want to do that.

Posted on 07/04/2009 7:28 AM by Esmerelda Weatherwax
Comments
4 Jul 2009
Rebecca Bynum
Any news on Islamfest this year?
4 Jul 2009
Artemis
What a vague and muddled article by the Daily Mail. Are there two conspiracy theories hinted at in the article: 1) that the British government and the Jooooooz did it, or 2) some Muslims in addition to the 4 bombers did it?
I get the impression that there are two very different groups of people who have two very different ideas about what happened and who did it, but they seem to be lumped together as "conspiracy theorists."
And what is the nature of the CCTV evidence that supposedly proves or disproves anything? I don't get the point of the article.
But bottom line, if the British government is killing dozens of its own citizens in order to blame Muslims in order to invade Iraq in order to kill Muslims, doesn't that mean that the British government is stirring mischief in the land? Wouldn't that give Muslims in the U.K. the right, no the imperative, to respond by violence? Or at least, give the British government the ability to make more attacks on its own citizens which it would then blame on Muslims? Where will this lead, I wonder?
4 Jul 2009
Paul Blaskowicz
Muab Dib aka A.J. Hill has declared himself to be the Messiah. Whether this was before the other Troofer David Shayler (has he since been committed to an asylum?) arrogated unto Himself the title, I cannot say. These competing claims to messianic authority have absolutely no effect on the nutters that accept the Troofers' truth. David Icke is another Troofer who claims to be the Son of God. (He also believes/d that the Royal Family are lizard people, and a whole lot of nonsense about Jews that seems to me to have no basis in fact. . .)
4 Jul 2009
Alan R
In relation to Mumbai massacres, referred to in tv review, the following article is also of relevance:
"Mumbai massacre revisited"
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/irfan-husain-mumbai-massacre-revisited-479
(The Channel 4 documentary video may be available via a link to: 'channel 4 dispatches mumbai'.)
5 Jul 2009
reactionry
Paul Blaskowicz:
Regarding Paul Atreides....
More Blimey, It's Not O'Reilly
-late for bed here, but there's time to note the following mish-mosh of dreadful wordplay:
The phrase " -Jihad -Holy War" is used in the 1984 movie, Dune.
Before Andy Murray lost in the finals, the first Scot who won Wimbledon, (not quite dispelling the stereotype of haggis-snappers as the world's worst tennis players), was, of course, Angus Podgorny, who won, not because of a home court advantage, but because of the actions of a hospitable couple from his opponent's home world of Skyron who consumed the alien with a heapin' helpin' of spice blancmange*.
-Dangnabbit; wrong movie. And I'm ashamed to admit that I had to Google "troofer," although I did recall that Dune featured Thufir Hawat. Reviewing the previously posted YouTube** confirmed my sieve-of-a-squash's memory that it was Billie Jean King (btw., fwiw, I think that the comment about "Billie Jean King [Geddit?] of Pop" was moderately clever, though I generally find my old posts to be somewhat embarrassing in contrast to the conviction of their brilliance when first posted), not Martina Navratilova, who was (ahem) "eaten in" (er) "straight sets."
* Sorry, M'lud, it's not "spice blancmange" or "Glass Menagerie," but "spice melange"
5 Jul 2009
Paul Blaskowicz
react:
Rubaiyat Keeler. B.J. King of Pop. Martina N. eaten in straight sets. And you expect me to genteelly nosh my Krispy Kreme and to drink my Earl Grey without spluttering while reading this? Stoppit.
12 Jul 2009
dumbledoresarmy
Dear Esmerelda
Seconding your closing remarks.
As for the 'Dune' books, in connection with the favourite nom de plume of the foolish and dangerous Irishman who produced 'Ripple Effect' (which the Muslims appear to be finding so much to their taste)...I too have read at least the first, my husband being a devoted sci fi fan. Very strange tales, indeed.
I cannot resist, however, pointing out that although as you observed , you are most certainly *not* a Mother Superior of the Bene Gesserit, you *are* a member of the Mothers Union (which I myself am presently in process of joining). A far more positive and interesting organisation than anything Frank Herbert thought up.
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